It's ok. Gq often do it. Some players have video with this.
All that we can do - ask Sedy to ban her on ~24 hours from bf. But for what? She will do it again. So forget.

wait veno didnt u just say in another thread that there was plenty of players to do dungeons and pvp etc you just needed guild friends etc? now u saying there is limited players and trying to get somone in trouble because they cant get chaos any other way? becasue there arent enough players playing the game to even do that?

im not condoning cheating at all but honestly what does it even matter anymore i can go an entire month without seeing someone in pvp map to even get chaos points.
i think we should make any map outside terminus pvp map.

Umpity wrote:

wait veno didnt u just say in another thread that there was plenty of players to do dungeons and pvp etc you just needed guild friends etc? now u saying there is limited players and trying to get somone in trouble because they cant get chaos any other way? becasue there arent enough players playing the game to even do that?

So u did it too? Lose match for ur team coz ur friend in another team?
BF and dng is different things. Ur friend can help u with dng, but lose match is not good for other players. This is disrespect.

idk how many people have already been busted for dual client in bf because if they dont then there wont be enough ppl to get match started.
ugh its loose loose either way.

Umpity wrote:

im not condoning cheating at all but honestly what does it even matter anymore i can go an entire month without seeing someone in pvp map to even get chaos points.
i think we should make any map outside terminus pvp map.

Sure it doesnt matter. I thin this Mo is new player. He tryed to go and win BF, but see this. Now i think i won't go it anymore

Umpity wrote:

idk how many people have already been busted for dual client in bf because if they dont then there wont be enough ppl to get match started.
ugh its loose loose either way.

About dual clients - u r right, i hate it. Rly. Not because i cant use dual. I can use 5 windows with games for tears, but i dont want. Idk why Sedy still doesn't do anything with duals.

>Veno wrote:

Umpity wrote:

wait veno didnt u just say in another thread that there was plenty of players to do dungeons and pvp etc you just needed guild friends etc? now u saying there is limited players and trying to get somone in trouble because they cant get chaos any other way? becasue there arent enough players playing the game to even do that?

So u did it too? Lose match for ur team coz ur friend in another team?
BF and dng is different things. Ur friend can help u with dng, but lose match is not good for other players. This is disrespect.

no u putting your horrible english in my mouth i never said i did it i dont cheat but honestly im over the whole tattle tale thing if ppl dont dual client then noone goes bf.
dont put words in my mouth
and also learn to speak english

lol yes Mo is new player hahahhaha

Umpity wrote:

lol yes Mo is new player hahahhaha

First time on BF? LOL

Umpity wrote:

>Veno wrote:

Umpity wrote:

wait veno didnt u just say in another thread that there was plenty of players to do dungeons and pvp etc you just needed guild friends etc? now u saying there is limited players and trying to get somone in trouble because they cant get chaos any other way? becasue there arent enough players playing the game to even do that?

So u did it too? Lose match for ur team coz ur friend in another team?
BF and dng is different things. Ur friend can help u with dng, but lose match is not good for other players. This is disrespect.

no u putting your horrible english in my mouth i never said i did it i dont cheat but honestly im over the whole tattle tale thing if ppl dont dual client then noone goes bf.
dont put words in my mouth
and also learn to speak english

Why u hate ur mouth a lot, man, this is not cool. Fuck bf, rly, fuck clients.

guys you lost topic of duscussion
mo said about chaos points, not about bf

Iceland wrote:

guys you lost topic of duscussion
mo said about chaos points, not about bf

Lost interest too :x

Umpity tells like it's okay to cheat
But why then we need this leaderboard? Lets just kill friends and guildmates
Such stupid thing
Lets remove this ranking then lol

This has been dealt with and the ranking updated. It should not be possible to gain points from the same player over and over due to the PK Debuff that you get when killed on a PK map or whilst PK enabled, so I'm not sure how this happened - if anyone knows a way to circumvent the PK Debuff please let me know so I can fix it.

That being said - there are no rules saying you can't kill the same player (no point since you can't normally get points doing this), and it's very difficult to prove if somebody has agreed to let their friend kill them etc. so I don't even go there.

You got me wrong sir if some one enters your alt and gave you his points in his account which means 5 characters in and they don't have debuffs as the other character that been killed
the game is lack of people to get that much chaos points in a day there's something weird about it

the only way i know to circumvent the already in place system is to dual or tripel client then take one character in let someone kill it then take another character in let someone kill it log another char in let someone kill it then log another account etc etc.
then after 15 minutes can start over from beginning.

ive personally had other players offer to pay me to let them kill me in pvp map (i didnt do it) but it shows if someone wants the points bad enough they will get them .. for some people its not about the rankings they are trying to get the title and or gears and even if they win chaos every month it will still take them a year or longer to get or be able to use the gears.

Umpity wrote:

the only way i know to circumvent the already in place system is to dual or tripel client then take one character in let someone kill it then take another character in let someone kill it log another char in let someone kill it then log another account etc etc.
then after 15 minutes can start over from beginning.

ive personally had other players offer to pay me to let them kill me in pvp map (i didnt do it) but it shows if someone wants the points bad enough they will get them .. for some people its not about the rankings they are trying to get the title and or gears and even if they win chaos every month it will still take them a year or longer to get or be able to use the gears.

i wish to understand what are you talking about since the start honestly.

Iceland wrote:

Umpity tells like it's okay to cheat
But why then we need this leaderboard? Lets just kill friends and guildmates
Such stupid thing
Lets remove this ranking then lol

and i abolutely do not condone cheating .. i gave up on the argument about it long ago.
there is no win .. as long as there is a game there will always be someone trying to get an advantage.
and in this case people (myself included) complain about people cheating in bf but at the same time once people get banned then bf dies off and you can go entire day or two without being able to get a match started.
battlefield has always been an issue even when people dont dual client they still sit or feed the other team or dont heal or report afk ..its always something.

and people who play during the extremely dead hours have a snowballs chance in hell of getting bf points because bf is never active during those hours.
i think server should add bots to bf to allow the match to que or something.

Are you having a problem with understanding? as iceland said before its not about battlefield its about pk i hope if you did your own discussion and talk about what you want to talk but not in this one

Mo wrote:

Are you having a problem with understanding? as iceland said before its not about battlefield its about pk i hope if you did your own discussion and talk about what you want to talk but not in this one

this is exactly what im talking about here

the only way i know to circumvent the already in place system is to dual or tripel client then take one character in let someone kill it then take another character in let someone kill it log another char in let someone kill it then log another account etc etc.
then after 15 minutes can start over from beginning.

ive personally had other players offer to pay me to let them kill me in pvp map (i didnt do it) but it shows if someone wants the points bad enough they will get them .. for some people its not about the rankings they are trying to get the title and or gears and even if they win chaos every month it will still take them a year or longer to get or be able to use the gears.

I need the points and i didn't cheat unlike what she did , i been farming her own guild
member players as rivals because they love pk and i love it too but iam too strong for them and shes not the best one to be that rival almost everyone in this game can defeat her but she got rank 1 some how i am really surprised

The points were obtained from only 2 other characters that were killed repeatedly in a short time frame which should not even be possible due to the PK Debuff, but there is obviously some bug with it for this to have happened.

I've been testing it tonight to try to find out how but so far it's working properly and I don't continue to get points from killing the same character over and over.

She don't kill the same character she has a lot of alternate characters i'm complaining about her getting rank 1 by that not about the pk debuff the pk debuff work perfectly but what she's doing to get rank 1 sorcerer is killing her alternate characters not only one character and its done

+200 points in one day. ahahha my gosh

I'm not disputing that Mo, but right now I'm just talking of this past day as the OP was complaining that 200 points were gained in 1 day. I can see in the logs that in the past 24 hours only 2 characters were PKd, multiple times to gain those 200 points. It's not a case of her killing many different characters 1 time, or 1 time every 15 mins because of PK Debuff, it's 2 characters as I said before. Somehow the PK Debuff was not working as it should and was able to kill the same 2 characters multiple times and gain points.

Anyway, the points gained from killing those 2 characters were removed and the rankings updated, and now I will try to figure out the bug and fix.

Isnt that count as bug abuse? why dont have the punishment, so they will think couple times when try to abuse the bug

thanks sedy

https://noscrubs.net/discussions/server-rules

7. Do not abuse bugs or use any hacks or exploits. If you find a bug, hack or exploit you must report it.

Punishment for breaking any of these rules varies from mutes, temporary bans or a permanent ban from the server and is completely down to the Admin's discretion.

Berry wrote:

https://noscrubs.net/discussions/server-rules

7. Do not abuse bugs or use any hacks or exploits. If you find a bug, hack or exploit you must report it.

Punishment for breaking any of these rules varies from mutes, temporary bans or a permanent ban from the server and is completely down to the Admin's discretion.

Agree.

Like i just caught her now doing it again ...

If thats legal i can let my brother log in to give me chaos points if its so free like that

Well, personally I'm not interested in PK rankings and the such, but I do not see why a player would be punished when they did not break any rules. By verifying with the server rules, the only rule that she could have broken is:

7. Do not create multiple accounts and characters to attempt to cheat the voting system, SlotZ, or any other system

This rule is ambiguous, as it is not defined what is "cheating" the different systems (except the voting for tears one defined in other rules). In this direction, I think these rules should be refined if these actions are condemnable. In my opinion, if someone has the time to farm 200 CP on their alts whilst waiting the 15 min PK debuffs, let them. Isn't it in a way a way of farming like any other?

If you have proof, ACTUAL proof that Greatqueen of ANYONE is using the same accounts, either getting sedy to IP check or anything. then we can take action on that... but need proof, screenshot and video.

Yes if this is true... it's technically cheating. to a very high degree..

Problem is... i don't have ways to see about it as it happens only Sedy does

Mythos wrote:

If you have proof, ACTUAL proof that Greatqueen of ANYONE is using the same accounts, either getting sedy to IP check or anything. then we can take action on that... but need proof, screenshot and video.

Yes if this is true... it's technically cheating. to a very high degree..

Hmm, if it's that bad then where is it written down? It's not in the rules...

Very simple put. If it's not allowed for someone to dual log and join BF on two characters. Why would it be allowed for someone to cheat the PK system? Same principle different situation.

Mythos wrote:

Very simple put. If it's not allowed for someone to dual log and join BF on two characters. Why would it be allowed for someone to cheat the PK system? Same principle different situation.

Here she is not dual logging though... Friends and guildmates are giving her the points.

Where as the BF rules are clearly written down, the PK ones are not. It is two different system, so they should have their own set of rules... I just don't think it's politically correct to ban someone over an unwritten rule. I think an important point is not taken into account here: this server is populated by a very diverse community, coming from different gaming backgrounds. Rules, particularly if they're not clearly written down, are bound to be interpreted differently by different people.

Zeekrom wrote:

Mythos wrote:

Very simple put. If it's not allowed for someone to dual log and join BF on two characters. Why would it be allowed for someone to cheat the PK system? Same principle different situation.

Here she is not dual logging though... Friends and guildmates are giving her the points.

Where as the BF rules are clearly written down, the PK ones are not. It is two different system, so they should have their own set of rules... I just don't think it's politically correct to ban someone over an unwritten rule. I think an important point is not taken into account here: this server is populated by a very diverse community, coming from different gaming backgrounds. Rules, particularly if they're not clearly written down, are bound to be interpreted differently by different people.

i agree with zeekrom.

the rules do not really say this is illegal, it is comparable to running idq many times with diff accounts to collect moolah.

Then you don't understand why the rules are in place for server Security. Why are there measures against this? Why did Sedy remove the points? And why there is a PK shame system for dual log pking? Obvious it's illegal that's that.