well if all your BRAIN can think about is losing ... then you are just gonna lose and keep continue complaining. Cant blame that shit on Sniper LOL

im agree with nikki, gun user/snipers is more like support class, in pvp map i like play behind my team, coz im easy to die, thats why i just use hit and run. ur enemy never realize they get hit by snipers, as long u hav ppl/friend to tank u

The little pump Sedy did already made the class more effective. Having a shield would be a consolation.

You keep on protesting about survival rate. I've been a WW for a year here on NS and a Scout in Retail for 2 years. All i can say is whatever job you are, for as long as you are a Mail user, don't expect to have a long survival rate. Mail classes are meant to evade, not to take damages. Being a sniper now and a WW as well, both has the same survival rate, imo.

Nope. I disagree on what you keep on repeating. The word "weak". Keep on doing that and the only weak Sniper i'll see is you.

of course there's no noob class, I didn't say noob, I said weak/soft/easily killed, whatever.

You disagree but you want an aura protection/shield for sniper, it is same as increasing survival rate, XD

There's no such thing as noob class/job. it just depends on how well you use them.

I still beg to disagree.

The only thing i want for snipers is an aura protection/shield that would break after taking such damage. (like the ones that wizards have)

if sniper's aren't weak, then how come almost all players in BF are wizards and sorcs? temps? champs? assasins? windwalkers?
where are the others?
SNIPERS, VANQ, SOULBLADER, CRUS, (lvl 84 cap)
why almost all of them change class/jobs? because they are tired of being weak, tired of dying
they want to switch to class where can they can kill more/ can survive long in battle.

That's why we are asking to improve Sniper's Skill ,
I'm satisfied with Sniper's DPS just add escaping mechanism/ increase survival rate to be more competitive in BF like others,.

Happy Iris Everyone XD

yeah yeah, you are all right, but still, weak is weak, you can all use your tactics, all players has tactics, sniper with tactics vs. other class(specially sorc and wiz) with TACTICS, still sniper loses, LOL.

LOL yeah,, when me and alpha were just practicing,, me an Above average geared Vanquisher,, he can just make my hp go poof.. or render me useless and just keep me at bay with the right uses of his Debuffs

Distance is the key and the lesser movement speed they have, the better. Use your damn skills wisely. Snipers aren't weak and same as other classes and snipers aren't OP--again, same as other classes. It all goes down to who's using the class.

And don't compare Mail users to Heavy users, esp Templars. imo and tbh, Templars are the easiest class to use. They're built to survive and could take enormous damage and still walk straight towards you.

If you wanna slack, class change to a templar or an assassin.

well if you refuse to keep distance wait attacking other? Im sure sniper is just a weakling for u. I can survive with a noob spiner 85 undergeared + a Saint vs 2 Tanker and 1 Sorc for 10mins with just 20% Pot and 4k pot in hand so guess wat? You just dont have enough tactic against other classes LOL (and when enrage still -27% abs not Def)

but it doesn't change the fact, that snipers are weak compare to others, ,

Its true that snipers are weak.. But its up to you how you play it.. If you'll just stand your ground and wait for your enemy to get close to you.. Surely you'll die.. The thing is.. You'll need to improvise strategy just to stay alive.. .. I don't have good gears but i'm doing fine and manages to increase my survival rate a little bit.. In fact.. I've change my mind and I'm gonna stick my sniper..

Nah, there is no such thing. It's two separate stats and no ALL variant unfortunately.

Yes, but to sum it all up, sniper are still weaker.
yes they have annoying debuff, that's why they would choose to kill sniper first, and you can't do anything to save your sniper, you just watch your sniper killed,
It's very weak because it is the weakest. I agree that you have to have good gears (true to all classes), but why other class dont need to have "good gears? to say that they're strong/weak?

I agree that Snipers have one of the lowest survival rate, that's why i was suggesting that somehow, somewhere snipers should have some shield protection or something. But, i do not agree that snipers are very weak. Yes, they do micro-damage (minimal); but sum it all up they still inflict a great amount of dps coz of their attackspeed and to add: their debuffs are really annoying. imo, snipers aren't really 'fit' for a 1 on 1 combat, they're too vulnerable at that kind of state. Truth hurts, it's not easy using a Sniper unlike Templars, Barbs, Glads, Assassins, SBs, especially on Tanks wherein you'll just smash buttons. It's a challenge and you actually got to have 'good gears' somehow--just to level with other classes.

IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM ( SORC/WIZ/TANK), JOIN THEM!!!!

the main reason why sniper is VERYYYYYYYY WEAK,not because they have LOW dps, BUT because they have the LOWEST survival rate.
before they can kill someone, sniper will die first.

Is it possbile to make it all evasion?

No space for it I'm afraid. All 3 slots of this skill are already filled with the speed and physical evasion buffs and the reduced ranged attack power.

How about adding a some Magical Evasion on Disengage rope skill? That would be helpful.. It would increase a little the survival of sniper on BF againts Magic users..

Meanie :

lol alpha... rnt u annoying enough with ur current skill ... NO SHIELD for you mister ahaha

Too much range causes a problem/glitch. Current range is fine, imo.

I'd rather have Snipers get some shield protection or something, it would really help a lot.

i suggest additional range for sniper, as the word itself "SNIPER", they shouldn't be noticed easily in a clash, because when a sorc/wiz noticed a sniper, they will not last long unless there's a healer. As I experienced.

This thread made me switch to sniper.

This thread makes me want to quit my sniper

Just got offended by the sig -.- sorry..

She dislikes me. :/

:O i see my name

So much hate for NG girl. :O

Maybe that's the reason why they aren't that boosted, so few using them.

Snipers are more like support thingy now. D;

Sleep? that long CD can be remove with debuff pots? Low CD -def which is a casting skill? and gcast? with a lot of other classes can range silent/root/stun? and poof goes 1 enemy? the one undergeared but like to whine about other classes? That kinda thing is OP? I think the last one about whining would be OP LOL the rest is just a laughable joke

^ Exactly how I react on BF haha. The only problem with snipers is they don't have any good escaping mechanisms. Vault is one, but other than that, once you take a hold of the sniper it almost always means you win. Just buff up the rope skill that gives -27% abs, that's almost all abs a character has without using pots.

Assassins are good the way they are dude, I don't see my assassin skills needing any buffs. Tho if any of you here could donate items to my assassin, that would be great xD

Eva assassin here too. Question to OP: What did you mean that
"comparing a sniper with 400+ eva and assasin/ww/sharpshooter with 300+ eva
you can hit a 400eva sniper with 250hit chance while on the other jobs mentioned earlier.. goodluck hitting them"?

AFAIK, eva works the same on all characters.

I like gunners. they go pew pew

PS.

If my sig offended you, sorry. I don't consider your post as whining or w/e. So i assumed that you won't get offended by it. Turns out, you did--you shoudnt. You threw out your opinion and gave suggestions. I don't consider that as QQing on something. So yeah, i feel your urge for your class to get more attention and make it more improved. I am not against that.

I'm an Eva build mail user. I rely on it... on full extent.