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ciausien ciausien
posted on Thursday, September 13 2012, 03:46 AM in General Chat


System Info: MSI (Micro Star) 880GM-E41, Memory Type: 4

x 2GB DDR3 PC3-10600, DDR3 PC3-12800, DDR3 PC3-8500,

DDR3 (non-ECC), AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (be)

with the cooler on it, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series with

fan and 900 watt power supply. My problems are this.

When i go to start my pc at times it won't start, the

fan on the graphic card will start to spin a little bit

but acts like it don't have enough power to turn over.

my pc doesnt start. I tried swapping the power and

reset buttons, tried unplugging the case fans the small

ones and the large one on the side, i have checked the

wires inside each time and have yet to find a loose one

or cut one, My comp does loose the dvd drive sometimes

almost like the SATA cable looses connection, the power

still works on it but it dont show up under my computer

as even being there. where C drive etc are located....

i will usually have to turn the main power button off

in back for about a minute and try and power on again,

sometimes takes 3 to 5 times before it will start up,

once running it runs great the heat stays down the

power levels look good i am at a total loss and could

use some outside views. thanks for any help....
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    DAFUQ DAFUQ
    replied on Thursday, September 13 2012, 06:06 AM #Permalink
    Have you tried with another power supply? 450W and above seems fine for me, considering your configuration. 900W is a bit high, of course of you're not planning an update.

    Does your case have speaker? Should be connected somewhere near your power off/restart button cables, but depends on your Main board. If so:

    Try getting out parts one by one, first off start with the Ram, take both out and try starting the pc, the speaker should start beeping that something is missing, if it does then the ram is fine.

    Skip hard disks, they most-likely show nothing important. Unplug your processor cable, it looks like square, most of the times it's white and near your processor's fan, then again check about beeping.

    Then proceed to the video card, you need take the whole plate out, yet again listen for beeping.

    But first of all before you do all this, make sure you test with another power supply.

    For me, it sounds like motherboard problem.
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    Jason Jason
    replied on Thursday, September 13 2012, 06:18 AM #Permalink
    Sometimes mine does this the only thing i could put it down to is the graphics card either a driver issue or its the shear weight of the card i usualy shut it down pop the side off give the card a wiggle restart and its fine :cheer:
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    DAFUQ DAFUQ
    replied on Thursday, September 13 2012, 06:33 AM #Permalink
    It can't be a driver issue, most of the times you get blue screens if drivers didn't apply correctly. His pc just won't start.
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    Galadriel Admin Galadriel
    replied on Thursday, September 13 2012, 03:21 PM #Permalink
    ciausien, get come compressed air and try it in the fans. It sounds like your fans are dusty, chunks of dust get really hot when the computer is on, and when it is off they become chunks again. If your computer is on and it takes it some minutes to turn on, it might mean that the CPU or gfx card fans are going slowly around to get the chunks warmed up again so they can move as they must.

    Not making this up, I've seen this happen 2 times and it sounds very much like your case.
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    Jason Jason
    replied on Friday, September 14 2012, 04:30 PM #Permalink
    It can't be a driver issue, most of the times you get blue screens if drivers didn't apply correctly. His pc just won't start.



    yeah most of the time unless its a driver conflict then your pc just wont start ;)
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    DAFUQ DAFUQ
    replied on Friday, September 14 2012, 06:16 PM #Permalink
    It can't be a driver issue, most of the times you get blue screens if drivers didn't apply correctly. His pc just won't start.



    yeah most of the time unless its a driver conflict then your pc just wont start ;)


    Tell me more about how many years of computer engineering you got, eh?

    You can ALWAYS start your computer, no matter what driver you put on, this is why there is safe mode and bios settings.

    I was having issues MANY times, and all of the times I was getting blue screen upon windows load, because that's the time where they load, upon windows boot start.

    Or you're trying to tell me that when you install Driver, your PC can get stuck, and you won't be able to start it at all? Then what? Genius.
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    Jason Jason
    replied on Friday, September 14 2012, 06:59 PM #Permalink
    It can't be a driver issue, most of the times you get blue screens if drivers didn't apply correctly. His pc just won't start.



    yeah most of the time unless its a driver conflict then your pc just wont start ;)


    Tell me more about how many years of computer engineering you got, eh?

    You can ALWAYS start your computer, no matter what driver you put on, this is why there is safe mode and bios settings.

    I was having issues MANY times, and all of the times I was getting blue screen upon windows load, because that's the time where they load, upon windows boot start.

    Or you're trying to tell me that when you install Driver, your PC can get stuck, and you won't be able to start it at all? Then what? Genius.


    im not going to brag about my pc experience or qualifications ive got only nabs do that, just because you have had problems FTW it dont mean your correct the op said the pc was trying to start so its not dead and nothing was mentioned about him trying to use safe mode or enter the bios so it could easily a driver issue aswell as alot of other things but hey if your right your right :dry:
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    Galadriel Admin Galadriel
    replied on Friday, September 14 2012, 11:23 PM #Permalink
    Tsk, guys!

    If he has checked that everything is in their rightful place, and it takes him a few minutes to get the pc started even though it's working and he can hear it working... Then it is ME who is right! *trollface*
    :P :woohoo: :P
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    DAFUQ DAFUQ
    replied on Saturday, September 15 2012, 04:17 AM #Permalink
    When i go to start my pc at times it won't start, the

    fan on the graphic card will start to spin a little bit

    but acts like it don't have enough power to turn over.

    my pc doesnt start.


    Yes, the PC is trying to start, but it does not O_o
    I've had this issue when I messed up in the bios processor settings and got my processor stuck. The pc was having the exact same behaviour. I needed to replace it with another and default my bios settings to run it back.

    The drivers are loading on the Windows Loading screen, not before that thus, it can't be driver failure.

    Go read some articles how PC works :whistle:
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