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Werewolf Werewolf
posted on Friday, April 05 2013, 09:41 PM in General Chat
So... this warlock (74) can deal me like 10K damage gcast in under 3sec. and pots are now only 2k heal every what, 15? Really? ...really? I just... feel that this is getting more and more like retail. It's getting harder and harder to do anything at a lower level, magic is all that matters, and if you aren't max level, you aren't important.


I guess my question is, other than making things considerably harder for lower lv. What was the reasoning behind changing the pots?

I see new pots are out, the megas, but even those are weaker than the super HP pots were, and damage taken is even greater across the board XD.

As a solution, and to not make the new mega pots totally broken, would it be possible to have the supers at 6k like they were and the megas at maybe 7.5 with a separate cooldown?
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    Julz Julz
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 12:16 AM #Permalink
    Maybe You Dont Have Enough Item Or That WL Have Full Allstat IV With Moolah Costume Or What Ever..

    Well You Can Use 20% Pots From VH Or 30% Pots From CH..

    But If You Dont Want To Waste Pots On lvl 74 DM/FM/Boa
    Just Level Your Char To Lvl 85 And Farm Item To Join..
    Well Its Same.. You Need To Use Pots.. And More Hard If You Farm On lvl 85

    EFFORT is The Answer

    If You Dont Do Some Effort You Cant Really Win To All People Joining On DM/FM/Boa
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    Werewolf Werewolf
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 02:54 AM #Permalink
    actually, I have 9 allstat 30 and the rest are allstat 18. And you really just proved my point. i feel railroaded to be 85 by the supports being taken away from the other levels. I have other leveled char. But this is my favorite. And I feel the mechanics are changing for me to enjoy it less and less. Which means to me that the new players coming into the server are going to have a less enjoyable experience leveling than I had to get even this far.

    That's a pretty pretentious reply to assume that because i don't like the changes affecting lower levels it's because I don't put forth effort. I also can't solo CH anymore due to the fact that I can't pot heal enough. Also you can only go to VH 3 times for a CHANCE at a couple pots each run which get used very quickly. You actually seem pretty out of touch with the pot situation for U
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    Sorrow Sorrow
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 03:39 AM #Permalink
    I believe sedy mentioned somewhere in another post the Super potions for level 50 was never intended to heal 6k it was a mistake they made when they buffed the Battlefield pots. If you wish for the 6k pots go spend your BF points for those pots instead, from what i can see those that need these pots are farmers at the 70-74 battlefield only. For normal leveling purpose that 2k is enough IMO anyway.
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    Kage Kage
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 04:15 AM #Permalink
    For leveling 2k is enough. For doing stuff without a healer or pvp it isnt. But also 6k was only recent. For months before that it super pots were 5k.

    Though 85 dailies can give some nice food, maybe buy some of those, like witches elixer and jumbled soup or even honey dish. Also can buy vh pots. So there are alternatives, just not as cheap/nice as having decent super pots from npc.
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    Werewolf Werewolf
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 04:47 AM #Permalink
    Again saying that if you don't like the fact that that there is less and less support for the lower levels. WHY do you think there are so many at 70-74 bf? Because that is the point in leveling where they feel it is the most fun. So instead of saying "hey, there are a lot of players that like this area of the game" It's seems like itt's more more of a push to force them (and me) into leveling. I don't particularly care for how my class upgrades. I love this server, and I'd like to be able to enjoy the friends and guildies I have and feel supported with staying in the more traditional Iris levels.

    Also, I don't believe it was intended forr magicians to be able to blast thier whole hotkey setup of spells at the same time but that happens =\ Not to get into a discussion about the fairness of that but there were already limited ways to deal with that... mainly try to run or outheal lol. Oh wait, slow and stun. Glad we have good pots :D.

    And btw, super pots helped more than just BF campers as you put it in your opinion. CH, WGH, glaceon 30, I can't beat now because I dont absorb hp and can't heal fast enough, as well ass having to stop and sit to rest so much more since I pot 1/3rd the hp for the same price and cd. And also, I feel terribly sorry for any healers trying to level with 2k hp pots lol. because unlike retail, nobody, even in guilds, likes to help anyone level. And they have a hard enough time with low damage as it is.
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    Kage Kage
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 05:55 AM #Permalink
    CH and WGH aside... should be able to solo glaceon at 74.. if not you have bigger issues. Could solo her on retail at 55-60 with both lock and adventurer.

    Now that cap is 85, you could move up to 75-84 bracket, or stay the same. No reason you can't buy the above mentioned food/pots. Though I definetly want 5k super pots back, doesn't mean you cant work around them, even at lvl 74.
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    rinelle rinelle
    replied on Saturday, April 06 2013, 07:37 AM #Permalink
    yeah, go 75-84 bf. Its more enjoyable having new skills altogether. Come join us!!!
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    Werewolf Werewolf
    replied on Monday, April 08 2013, 01:06 AM #Permalink
    again, that's not an answer for why everything gets harder and harder for physical and lower levels. im not even 74 yet. you just assume because I have this issue im camping and you are wrong. and it gets worse there lol. and none of you are in under 74 to talk about it XD also cage both have much higher Resistance to magic than plate classes. I could with my sw way before i can with this char. sadly tanks have loooooow dps so with out the pots + the slowdows he just gets worn away. and it's not more enjoyable. i have a char in that bracket and it's worse than any other. you must be op and at the top lol. I'm sure for you it's awesome.


    And if you want to bring up retail there were healthy battlefields at every level. I used to make chars just to camp at each one with friends. my favorite was seeing Pocky at Lv.40 lol. There's no support or anything for under 65 here. When I first joined a year ago I stopped playing bc it was the loneliest game I've been in XD Stopped leveling at 55. Came back with some friends and now having a great time. But mainly thats because I know people. If you have issues "just be 85" is not an answer. especially with exp and supports and the like towards getting 85 being cut back every major update.


    Whether or not changes happen we have to work around whatever gets modified. I just hope that admin considers that not everyone wants to "just be 85". And pressuring the community to "just be 85" starves those leveling to where they feel most enjoyment of meaningful gameplay.
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    Selka Selka
    replied on Monday, April 08 2013, 06:59 AM #Permalink
    So many people at at 70-74 BF because they farm it just like level 60.
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    Darcel Darcel
    replied on Monday, April 08 2013, 01:38 PM #Permalink
    Well it's not the fact we are making things harder for lower levels we are just setting things straight with some things we just pushed into the broom closet.

    I played a healer and leveling to 75 was really annoying as a sage and this was prior to all stat V and I believe the wing titles were only 15% at the time. It was hard time leveling with people like Geist, xRazor, HellGirl, Admiration, Magnus, Infested, etc who were just in PvP maps all the time especially when Cringer was new. I was ganked so much by people in PK maps trying to level I'd rage nothing could really save me from them. I had to suck it up and deal with it even though shout chat and megaphone might as well have been R symbols for me raging. lol We really didn't report spawn killing back then it was the it's a private server and we're in a PK map it's something we'll have to deal with if we're in the map.

    It's tough soloing and not getting help but if you don't put yourself out there to the community to make friends then you won't have much back up when people like Hit0mi or CrazyDoll who live in PvP maps currently. They're bored with nothing to do. lol

    Now you are a tank I'm guessing from the previous post. Well my friend you chose a class that's hard to level up solo wise. You need to have a dailies group so you can go to NFS without being ganked. Buff up as much as possible and make it harder for someone to kill you and just run if you and if you got an instant mount use it. lol

    HP pots won't be returning to the mistaken amount we had them at. We care about each and everyone and no one gets less support than another. You need to find friends who will help you. There are daily parties being done all the time. I know nice enough people who'd help you level if you needed help.

    Buff up+foods+ trans effects= will make thing s a better for you
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    Werewolf Werewolf
    replied on Saturday, April 13 2013, 11:59 AM #Permalink
    Thanks for responding. I'm not new to Iris or noscrubs. I remember when Night Forest was pvp too lol. Thanks for the tips, they kinda go out the window with low cd stun and gcast though XD. That's where the pots came in. at least they would keep me alive long enough to be a threat. But as you said that was an error that needed to be fixed. Hopefully some other glitches get fixed as well...
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